For Sale by Original Owner

A Very Clean 2017 CrossRoads Altitude Model 3712

Fifth Wheel Toy Hauler Trailer


We take delivery
Taking it home! (Click image for full size)


On the dealer's lot
Man - sure is big! (Click image for full size)


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Altitude series sales brochure scans

We scanned a sales brochure for the Altitude family of trailers
The following pages cover this trailer and illustrate what was available
This particular unit has every option mentioned, and we go into more detail below


This is the cover page of the brochure.   (Full Size)
This is what the inside looks like.   (Full Size)
Ours is a 3712 model - center layout.   (Full Size)
Some (but not all) of the popular options.   (Full Size)
Details of some of the options.   (Full Size)
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A little history and overview

2015 and 2016 production was "normal" for the Altitude model from Crossroads.

2017 was a "strange" year: there was little or no consumer production for Altitudes.

This particular unit was built as a 2017 model (by the VIN code), and has a built on date of March 1, 2016. It was ordered as a demonstrator by a dealer to take to shows, and it was built with all available options. Most options are in the table below, but NADA does not have prices for some options (like the Party Deck), and does not account for things like two more ceiling fans with wall switches and one more ceiling fan with an on-fan switch.

As we understand it, the Altitude brand was sold in February of 2016, and the new owner/builder chose not to put the 2017 models into production. We suspect the manufacturing technique used to create the walls made it a good purchase decision - or it could have been a way to become the leader in the class - or there could be other reasons.

All very interesting, but since so few 2017 models were built, it makes it hard to establish market values. The table below attempts to synthesize the 2017 values - see the notes below the table for more information.

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Altitude series used trailer market values

 Item   2015 Low 
 NADA Retail 
 2015 Average 
 NADA Retail 
 2016 Low 
 NADA Retail 
 2016 Average 
 NADA Retail 
 2017 Low 
 Estimated 
 2017 Average 
 Estimated 
Base Price $26,850 $32,350 $29,250 $35,250 $31,650 $38,150
11,000 BTU A/C
(front bedroom)
320 385 355 425 390 465
15,000 BTU AC
(central, ducted)
475 575 530 635 585 695
Furnace
(25,000-30,000 BTU)
145 175 160 195 175 215
Microwave
hood combo
250 305 280 340 310 375
Refrigerator
(8-10 Cu. Ft.)
540 650 600 720 660 790
Water Heater 10 gal
Gas/Electric DSI
200 240 225 270 250 300
Television 40 inch
(Flat Screen)
220 265 245 295 270 325
DVD Player 20 25 25 30 30 35
Generator
(5 KW Gas)
1,340 1,615 1,870 2,250 2,400 2,885
Electric jacks
390 470 435 525 480 580
Scissor
stabilizer jacks
125 150 135 165 145 180
Fiberlass Exterior
(31 feet and over)
1,175 1,415 1,305 1,570 1,435 1,725
Fuel Station
(30 gallon)
380 460 420 510 460 560
Outside Shower 75 90 85 100 95 110
Power Double
Queen Bunks
800 960 890 1,070 980 1,180
Power Roof Vent 95 115 105 130 115 145
Power Roof Vent
with Rain Sensor
165 200 185 225 205 250
Spare Tire
and Carrier
85 100 95 110 105 120
Power Awning
10 to 15 feet
275 335 310 370 345 405
Power Awning
16 to 21 feet
295 355 330 395 365 435
50 Amp Service 100 120 110 130 120 140
Power Slide-out
(Bedroom Closet)
780 940 870 1,045 960 1,150
Power Slide-out
(Living Room Couch)
1,670 2,015 1,855 2,235 2,040 2,455
Total Price $36,770 $44,310 $40,670 $48,990 $44,570 $53,670

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Notes about the market values above

Notes to prices: The figures above for used 2015 and 2016 models are from the NADA web site at:
https://www.nadaguides.com as of October 2020.

The 2017 prices are estimates: 2016 price + (2016 price minus 2015 price) = 2017 price.
For example, the spare tire carrier was $100 for 2015's and $110 for 2016's - an increase of $10. So a reasonable value for 2017 models might be $110 (2016 price) + $10 (difference of 2015's and 2016's) = $120.

We've tried to be careful in our calculations, but if you find errors please let us know.

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Other equipment and options

There are options, features and extra equipment included in this sale that are not listed above: Given all these extras plus the estimated value of this unit we are asking $55,000. We've scanned the web for other units for sale and found several 2015 and 2016 units across the country, priced within the ranges suggested by NADA for their model years.

If you'd like to have an appraisal done, feel free - at your expense.

Several of the add-on items (hitch, extension cord) could be excluded from the sale if you wish, but frankly, the price would not be a lot lower.

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General pictures

Most of the pictures in this listing were taken in a very nice campground in Alabama.
The trailer is still there for your inspection.
Call to arrange a visit.


Here it is - all set up in the campground. No matter where you stand, it is a B-I-G trailer. Note the level mounted over the hitch pin - it can be seen from the truck.   (Full Size) The red tape helps the driver center the pin when hooking up. The pin is locked into a stabilizing tripod, and the black box carries all the sewer hoses when moving.   (Full Size)
The lower doors are (left to right): pass-through storage, LP bottles, Genset, and storage. It carries two 30 lb LP bottles (with automatic switchover).   (Full Size) Left to right the doors are Genset, storage, storage and pass-through storage. The front landing gear switch is on the front street-side - we pull the fuse to prevent {ahem} accidents.   (Full Size)
Not much to see here - the ladder is on the street side and folds flat to the wall. The rear awning is on the curb side. The loading lights are above the door, one per side, and a third near the ladder.   (Full Size) Sorry for the mess - we were unloading the trailer. The loading lights are clearer, and you can see the ladder is stowed. The blue stripe is the pull-down bug screen, and just below that is the lower bunk / sofa seats. On the floor curb side is the fifth wheel and mounting bracket.   (Full Size)
Here's the sign on it now. Call to make an appointment to see it.   (Full Size) Right after we bought it we put it in a campground in Western Massachusetts. Notice how high the front is off the ground - tricky parking!   (Full Size)
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Exterior pictures

 


This is the data plate from the front of the trailer. There are a couple of things to note: the VIN and the build date, plus you can (literally) carry a ton of cargo, and with a GVWR (Gross Vehicle Weight Rating) of 15,500 lbs, and three 6,000 lb axles, this trailer is overbuilt!   (Full Size) The front slide extends less than the main slide. The white tubes on the ground are plastic water pipes - craft supplies, not included with the sale.   (Full Size)
Visible doors left to right: edge of generator, storage, storage/battery, man bay. There is a fifteen foot long fifty amp extenson cord, included with the sale.   (Full Size) This shows the main slide-out, and the extension cord is more visible. The two round black things by the main bay door are fill inlets for the two freh water tanks. Also notice the household water filter near the fill inlets, and the fueling station (under the white decal, rear of the main slide).   (Full Size)
You can see the loading lights: 2 above the ramp and one on the garage wall. You can also see the typical RV water filter on the ground - we double filter our water.   (Full Size) That is a pretty big ramp door, but counter-balanced so one person can operate it. There are six parking platforms under the right rear corner. We made those to use when we encounter soft soil or muddy conditions, but they are not needed here. They are included in the sale.   (Full Size)
Here you can see the parking platforms more clearly. Also notice the solar security lights at the trailing edge of each awning. They hook into the rain gutter with S-hooks, and are removed when we have to move the trailer. No holes, no leaks and plenty of light at night. A similar light is hooked under each step.   (Full Size) The canopies are quite large. Notice the porch lights: one over the door and another behind the steps.   (Full Size)
This is the rear door with similar porch lights. You can also see the gutter mounted solar lights in this picture.   (Full Size) It's a l-o-n-g way down the side! With external stabilizer jacks on each side and a stabilizer tripod under the hitch, it is quite stable. The concrete block porch helps too.   (Full Size)
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Master bedroom pictures

 


The bedroom is pretty big, and there is a LOT of storage too. Here you can see the storage area in the slide (on the left), the storage over the bed and a small cabinet under the nightstand. Both nightstands have an electrical outlet, and the headboard area is very roomy - books, extra smoke detectors and other items fit nicely.   (Full Size) You can see the nightstand on this side better - it is smaller, and the storage under it is just a shelf. Plus there is storage under the bed.   (Full Size)
It is pretty roomy, but like most toy haulers, sleeping space is a little tight. The control on the bed is for the TV.   (Full Size) There is blue LED lighting on the headboard. The white stuff on the headboard is white rubber mesh shelf liner - things don't slip around while moving the trailer.   (Full Size)
There's an air conditioner in the bedroom right over the bed. The round white thing left of the AC is the outlet for the main AC in the living room. So you can cool down with either or both AC's while sleeping.   (Full Size) Picture taken from the forward street side - the TV is pretty easy to see from the bed. The door at the right edge goes to the bathroom.   (Full Size)
Looking from the bedroom toward the garage. Note the glass shower door in the bathroom. Also note half of our crack security team on the hall steps.   (Full Size) Another view into the bathroom and down the hall. The hooks on the doors are "pinned" into the doors - they don't slide around but can easily be taken down for cleaning.   (Full Size)
This is the slideout closet space - very roomy. The white things are dryer sheets - bugs and critters don't like them. We leave them in year round.   (Full Size) Under the bed is a great place for out of season clothing, extra shoes and so many other things. Surprising how much you can get in here. Critters also don't like the mothballs in the bag.   (Full Size)
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Master bathroom pictures

 


The bathroom sink is a fair size. The door to the right leads to the upstairs hall. Note the heater vent - nice on chilly mornings!   (Full Size) There is a good bit of storage under the sink. The white things are dryer sheets and mothballs.   (Full Size)
There is good lighting in the bathroom. The round white thing (upper right) is an AC outlet. Note the skylight over the shower (upper left).   (Full Size) There's room for a goodly amount of toiletries in the medicine chest, and when you're not moving, some items can go on top. See the coathooks in the mirror? They are on the wall over the toilet.   (Full Size)
Floor space is pretty good - the two doors into the bathroom prevent traffic deadlocks. Note the spongy thing under the door: it slides on the floor so the door will stay where you put it.   (Full Size) We have door hooks in a lot of places - this one is for a towel bar. A third bar is wrapped on the left end, should you want it. There's an exhaust fan directly over the toilet.   (Full Size)
The shower is a good size. Looks pretty too.   (Full Size) Access to the plumbing and such is through the round access panel.   (Full Size)
The bathroom closet is very roomy - note the dryer sheets again.   (Full Size) The space is almost floor to ceiling - lots of room. And the lighting in that area is pretty good too.   (Full Size)
There are a couple of coat hooks and an exhaust fan directly over the toilet.   (Full Size) They put the toilet into a corner where the space would ordinarily be wasted. This helps free up walking aroound room in the bathroom.   (Full Size)
You can open the shades and window in the hall and see the outside world from the bathroom.   (Full Size) Looking from the living room you can see the door to the bedroom, doorknob to the bathroom, smoke detector on ceiling, switch for the hall light and main themostat on the right wall.   (Full Size)
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Living and dining area pictures

 


From the living area you can see the bedroom door, a window in the slide and the television area. Note that we kept the couches covered because of our dogs.   (Full Size) A better view of the upper hall with the thermostat. The left door is to the bedroom, the right door is to the bathroom.   (Full Size)
The thing on the refrigerator door is a thermometer, watching the temperatures outside, in the fridge and in the freezer.   (Full Size) More of the living / kitchen area. The gas stove has 3 burners and an oven, and there is a microwave with hood too.   (Full Size)
There's a broom / coat closet right by the front door.   (Full Size) The fan in the living room is an automatic rain protected fan with thermostatic remote control - variable speed and whisper quiet so you hardly notice it.   (Full Size)
This is a large couch unit in the slide, and it makes into 2 queen size beds.   (Full Size) The rear end of the slide has a large cupboard / pantry area.   (Full Size)
Under the television are the entertainment system, controls for slides / pump / outside lights, and the generator remote control panel.   (Full Size) There's also room for DVD's and such under the TV. The little white thing on the door is a light. We keep remote controls here too.   (Full Size)
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Kitchen area pictures

 


The two-tub sink is under the covers. Pretty good counter space for food prep.   (Full Size) Lots of room for larger pots and pans under the sink and stove, plus three drawers for silverware and other items. There is "spice rack" space under the counter too.   (Full Size)
Generous counter space. The door leads to the garage. The cabinets are pretty big and easy to access.   (Full Size) Another picture of the counter area. The LP gas detector is near the bottom of the door.   (Full Size)
This pantry is in the slide area. There is also storage above the sofa area.   (Full Size) The slide pantry is almost floor to ceiling - lots of room in there.   (Full Size)
These are pretty big shelves - they hold quite a bit.   (Full Size) There is a pull-out drawer in the pantry that we used for lids, pots and pans. Very easy to get at when you need one.   (Full Size)
This is one of the cabinets over the counter - notice there are no interior blockages. Long things fit.   (Full Size) These cabinets alone have more room than in many other RV's. If you have "stuff", this RV is for you!   (Full Size)
This cabinet is up pretty high - we kept our electric skillet, waffle iron and such here out of the way.   (Full Size) More storage high up - we kept small electric heaters, bug lamps and some other outdoor stuff here.   (Full Size)
The refridgerator is pretty spacious. You can't see them but there are sensors in both compartments for the thermometer outside the door.   (Full Size) The fridge does a good job and runs on LP or 110 volt, so it works while dry camping.   (Full Size)
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Garage pictures

 


All the beds are up here and you can see - room for bikes, golf cart and other toys here. The hitch is included in the sale. Tie-down rings are in the floor. Left door is to the main cabin, right door is to the half-bath.   (Full Size) The lower bed can be converted to opposing sofas and power lowered to sitting height. The roller screen can be pulled down for bug control. You can see the cabinets over the interior doors here too.   (Full Size)
The overhead cabinet is full-width. The silver stuff is a sheet of foam insulation - makes a great bulletin board, and a place to hang travel maps.   (Full Size) We stored toilet paper, paper towels, tarps, furniture pads and other supplies up there. And the door on the right is to the half bath. The TV can act as a computer monitor for HDMI input.   (Full Size)
Pretty decent little half bath. We kept a weather radio on top of the medicine cabinet - you could hear it when it went off but it wouldn't levitate you out of bed.   (Full Size) We kept the toilet chemicals back here away from kids and dogs. The rubber floor mats are included in the sale.   (Full Size)
This is a close-up of the beds. The bottom pull-pin lets you remove the bottom seat/beds completely, and the top pull-pin allows the upper queen bunk bed to come down.   (Full Size) Notice the stubby legs - they fold down to make the sofa stable. The swim tubes help dummies who don't duck (ask me how I know).   (Full Size)
More details. We had an exercise bike and an office in the rear, with a table over the hitch. Not always comfortable but amazingly useful.   (Full Size) The cardboard on the door blocked the sunlight and was a place for notes and a wall calendar. Both doors have plexiglas on the screen bottom to prevent rips by our dogs.   (Full Size)
The rail continues to unfold and meets the right rail to enclose the deck. There is a small "gate" section to exit the deck onto a ladder (not included in the sale).   (Full Size) Here's the right side. Notice the latches near the bottom right, just rear of the roller. That rail doesn't just hang there - it is locked in making the party deck very sturdy.   (Full Size)
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Storage bay pictures

 


Looking curb side from street side - front is to the left, interior partition is removed. Note the inverter and TV wiring. Things are pretty accessible in the bay.   (Full Size) We had to replace the water pump - fairly easy to get at.   (Full Size)
We added an expansion chamber to the pump. It now runs much smoother and has far fewer surges (like when showering).   (Full Size) The valve on the far side of the pump selects input from the water tanks (normal use) or from a bottle of RV antifreeze (while winterizing). The white hose from the valve ends in a fill tube.   (Full Size)
The hose is draped over the service partition. Usually the end is wire-tied out of the way but reachable.   (Full Size) This end of the hose goes in the bottle of antifreeze and the pump forces it through the lines to individual faucets.   (Full Size)
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Keeping it from freezing

 


It can get cold in Alabama! This is an outside water filter - the second in the water line - that was {ahem} poorly drained before a cold snap.   (Full Size) First, turn off the water, water heaters and water pump, then drain the fresh tanks. Also open the "low point" drains. Open all the faucets to speed draining.   (Full Size)
Open the water heater and remove the drain plug. You -did- open the inside faucets, right? Leave the drain plug out for the winter.   (Full Size) Now set the valves (2) under the sink to the bypass position. You can still use the water system now, but without hot water. DON'T TURN THE WATER HEATER ON WHILE IT IS BYPASSED!!!   (Full Size)
Remove the access panel in the bay and change the water pump input selector. Now instead of pumping from the fresh tank, the pump will pump from your anti-freeze supply bottles. Close all the faucets in the trailer but leave the water heater drain out.   (Full Size) Now you're ready to pump anti-freeze into the system. Start the pump, then beginning at the furthest faucet (garage bathroom), run water from the faucets and toilets until anti-freeze comes through. As you do each line, close that faucet / valve and continue with the next furthest faucet. The outside shower shoul be the last one.   (Full Size)
Take some leftover anti-freeze and pour some down each drain and toilet. That's about it in a nutshell. Winterizing can be done several ways, and I usually prefer to blow out the lines with compressed air where it -really- gets cold. If you do that, put anti-freeze down the drains and toilets anyway. Either way, don't forget to drain the gray and black tanks and put some anti-freeze in them too.   (Full Size) My fresh water system goes from the campground faucet to a 4 outlet manifold (Tractor Supply). Outputs are: black flush, hand wash, fresh supply, spare. Fresh supply goes to a standard RV water filter, then a whole house filter, then to a Y-valve splitter. One side of the splitter goes to the "City Water" connector, and the other goes to a three foot hose to fill the tanks. By using the city connector and the pump, water pressure is pretty good and the fresh tanks stay clean.   (Full Size)
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Other notes and disclosures

 


The awnings are very large - especially the front awning. They are heavy and need large motors to extend and contract them. They are beginning to stick a little and sometimes need a little help to retract.   (Full Size) The housings come apart but you really need to have a tall ladder on the ground. Trying to remove the housings to lubricate the mechanism from the roof just doesn't feel safe. Also inside the housing is a wheel and brush assembly to bring power to the LEDs on the roller.   (Full Size)
Another view of the housing. You can also see the LED fixture in the gutter hanging on S-hooks - simple and plenty of light at night.   (Full Size) Early on we encountered low wires in campgrounds. These water pipes assemble to lift low telephone wires over the AC's and fans. This trailer is 13 feet six inches high. Coincidently these pipes make retracting stuck awnings very easy and safe.   (Full Size)
The bearing surface for the rear of the main slide looked like it was about to fail - the plastic was starting to crumple. Our dealer replaced the thin plastic surface with a much thicker piece of solid plastic. It works well but needs to be disclosed.   (Full Size) Another view of the repair. It is difficult to see, never mind photograph.   (Full Size)
Remember that nice big cabinet in the main slide? Looks like that drawer could hold a lot, right? We used it for pots and pans - easier on the back. It wasn't as sturdy as we would have liked.   (Full Size) So we reinforced the uprights that support the drawer. First, we braced up the shelf between the drawer and the floor.   (Full Size)
Then we braced up the attachment points for the slide mechanism. This is one side . . .   (Full Size) . . . and this is the other. Now it is solid and can handle much more weight.   (Full Size)
We moved once with the tailgate down. Fortunately we kept it pretty straight but the door took a small hit - see the two dimples?   (Full Size) You can see where the door material was pushed a little bit out of the aluminum framework. The material is like a really stiff foam. It could be trimmed but we wanted to ease it back into the channel instead. The lock mechanism is on the curb side (left in the photo) so the bay can be secured.   (Full Size)
Here's a closeup of the damage.   (Full Size) And another closeup of the damage. Getting tools into the area and working upside down has been the challenge.   (Full Size)
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How to complete the sale

We have a clear title for this trailer, and will make arrangements to meet at a bank to sign the papers and transfer funds. The trailer will be ready for you to tow away. We expect the buyer to pay a cash down payment of $1,000 to cancel all advertising. THIS DEPOSIT IS MANDATORY AND NON-REFUNDABLE! We expect full payment and title transfer to be complete within ten calendar days after your down payment and acceptance of our terms.

IF YOU DO NOT COMPLETE THE SALE WITHIN TEN CALENDAR DAYS YOU WILL FORFEIT YOUR DEPOSIT!

We want this transaction to be concluded as safely and securely as possible for both parties. We will help the buyer make arrangements to conclude the sale at a bank so title, bill of sale and funds may be processed in safe surroundings. We can help an out-of-town buyer make connection travel arrangements from an airport, bus or train station, and suggest overnight motel (or campground) possibilities as well.

We are "selling out" of this trailer. It is currently set up in a very nice campground in North Central Alabama. After we complete the sale, if you can arrange to rent the current spot you could move right in. Turn the water on, set the thermostat and make the bed.

Or I can deliver it to your location for a small extra fee. If you choose this option we will need a larger down payment (ten percent or more), agreement on an additional delivery charge (a dollar a mile? free within fifty miles?) and agreement on a location to complete the sale. It is currently registered, insured and "road legal". (If we completed the sale first it wouldn't belong to us and our insurance and registration would not be valid when we moved it.)

Or we can simply complete the sale, after which you can take it wherever you wish. In this case we will pay the campground lot fee for up to five days - additional time to remove the trailer will be the buyer's responsibility.

Final payment is expected to be in a form that a bank will accept immediately with no recourse. For example, wire transfers, travelers checks or cash would be acceptable forms; money orders, personal checks or other instruments that are not immediately viable are not acceptable. THIS IS THE BUYER'S RESPONSIBILITY - unacceptable forms of payment will delay the transfer of the title to you and could forfeit your down payment.

The buyer is responsible for all matters concerning registration, insurance, sales taxes and other paperwork. If you need temporary plates to drive it home, you should bring them with you.

If you have questions you may call or text us at area code six one seven 283-oh six six two. We have poor cell service at the moment so you may have to leave a message, and we may not get your text right away. Please be patient.

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